Get the 76th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. If youre interested in lower-cost fun thumping, then you can use coated bullets and load subsonic. The .458 SOCOM feeds flawlessly from many standard unmodified 5.56 AR magazines. I've shot the 100gr Lehigh bullets, and the 255gr with pretty good accuracy as well (the 255gr sub MOA at 100 yds). History [ edit] Do not contact us and ask to change an order youve already placed. OK, big deal. Cycles fine. I have seen posts and videos of subsonic 458 SOCOM with similar complaints but they always seem to be using a bullet that does not expand at subsonic velocities. SFX9 HC 3.25 Solid Frame X-TAC 15 Round, SFX9 HC 3.25 Solid Frame X-TAC 10 Round. The thump is impressive. The gas tube you use is the same gas tube youd use for any other build of the barrel length youve chosen. After the design was completed, Tony Rumore of Tromix Message and data rates may apply. Item 47G is designed to be a sub-sonic load, for suppressed use, but you do not have to use a suppressor if you do not want to. Got suppressor going and subs decent. These cartridges are equipped with an ultra heavy-weight 550-grainfull metal jacketed bullet, which is the heaviest 458 SOCOM bullet that SBR produces. The .458 SOCOM comes back with a certain amount of authority, and you dont want to be crowding the scope when you touch off one of the robust ones. there is a throat limit in the 458 SOCOM chamber where it will not accommodate some types of - Winston Churchill. The .458 SOCOM was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. Please check local laws before ordering. Where the .458 SOCOM gets to be giddy fun is when you go with heavyweight subsonics. I LOVE the 458 Socom round, it is the most fun round I own to shoot. by Bendersquint Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:15 am, Post Ever wonder just how big a bullet we can hurl out of the standard AR-15 package? (such as promotion codes and cart reminders) from AMD at the number provided, Corp in Broken Arrow, OK was contacted to build the first prototype. We dual diametered the shank which allows the bullet seatingcloser tomagazine length. Satisfactory powders for 458 Socom subsonic: Bullseye, Unique, 2400 Unsatisfactory powders: 1. So, for the .458 SOCOM, Marty and Tony Rumore of Tromix chose lengthened .50 AE cases and had the brass maker trim the rims down from the .50 AE diameter of .514 to .473 inch. The videos on this channel focus on the first two itemsusing guns and making the ammo that gets used in them. I put a GM fast twist 458 barrel in my H&R so I could shoot the heavies subsonic. Bullet on right measures .750 diameter and penetrated 29 inches of 10 percent gel. If you like my videos and want to support my channel, please visit: https://www.patreon.com/fullleadtaco *or* paypal.me/fullleadtaco Current coupon codes for my viewers: flt001to use for 10% off atnoebulletmoulds.com showmethecandyto use for 15% off atconcealmentsolutions.com tacoto use for 10% off atbuckeyetargets.com getinthevanihavecandyto use for a significant discountmagholder.com aircandy to get free shipping and turret stickers at UtahAirGuns.com. HOW WILL THIS (name any) AMMO FEED AND FUNCTION IN MY GUN? A 600-grain JSP (which has no hope whatsoever of expanding, just to be clear) in the subsonic velocity region becomes an entertaining range time. Yowza! My 15" barrel Thompson-Center Encore pistol in 500 S&W Magnum launches a 385 gr Remington core-locked hollow point bullet at 960-1000 fps using a completely full case worth of Trail Boss powder. The 1/14 twist is supposed to stabilise the heavy weight (500 grain) bullets for short range shooting but the VLDs offer some interesting, if expensive, experiences and have to be tried! At current order rates, we are shipping within 5-7 business days of the time an internet order is placed. by Wicked Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:09 pm, Post by Artful Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:23 pm, Post For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. Then, clean the lube off for loading. Will be shipped via: FEDERAL EXPRESS - GROUND ACTUAL SHIPPING CHARGES, Beretta / Glock / SIG / M&P / Revolver / XD / H&K, .458 SOCOM | 250GR, HORNADY MFX, 1850 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 300GR, NOSLER BT, 1725 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 300GR, HORNADY HP, 1700 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 300GR, X-TREME RNFP, 1700 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 350GR, HORNADY SP, 1675 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX. I have been looking for a new 'project' and was thinking that I wanted to do a suppressed .50 subsonic bolt rifle. I didn't really find any other bullets I liked for long range sub-sonic use. About the .458 SOCOM The Lancer 20 round 5.56 magazine holds seven SOCOM rounds and the 30 round 5.56 magazine will hold nine. We have LOTS of ammo in stock and are making more at a huge volume on a daily basis. The SOCOM is also capable of launching 500- 600 grain bullets at subsonic velocities for suppressed or tactical use. Now, that last part is a bit more, shall we say, variable, than the others. PacNor will do a .458 barrel in a 6 groove 1:8 or an 8 groove 1:10. The cartridge itself is a powerhouse and was developed specifically to take down large, dangerous game, while still being usable from the M4/AR15 platform (a unique upper receiver would be needed). Oh, hey, theres a complete rifle on the end of the rack with a shot-out bore. A 600-grain JSP (which has no hope whatsoever of expanding, just to be clear) in the subsonic velocity region becomes an entertaining range time. by Rikky Lee Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:23 pm, Post . You can download a copy of the cartridge print directly from the CIP website, or, 458 SOCOM 300 GR BARNES TTSX (TAC-X) 20 RDS, 458 SOCOM 300 GR LEHIGH EXTREME PENETRATOR (FOR DANGEROUS GAME) 20 RDS, 458 SOCOM 300 GR SOLID COPPER FOR DANGEROUS GAME 20 RDS. Subsonic Maker Solid Copper Hollow Point (SCHP) $ 74.99 Add to Cart 458 SOCOM 250gr. That With this load, unlike our other sub-sonic load, I had to adjust my gas port to get the action to reliably cycle. Since the users wanted bullet choices that left out the usual suspects back in the pre-9/11 days, those rejected being potential cartridges that used pistol bullets. for ~1,700-1,800 fps category), (note: Matts Bullets makes a 365 Grain Lead, Round Flat Nose + Gas Check(.458) that should be experimented with if the flat nose does not create afeed problem). He is a published fiction and non-fiction writer, earned his pilots license in 1965, and is the original founder of Reload Ammo in 1996. I'm actually in the process of building myself a suppressed .458 Socom, but in an AR platform. It used to be that .458 SOCOM ammo cost $2.50-$3.50 per shot. Yes, the idea was to make the .458 SOCOM feed out of standard AR magazines. I'm looking at the SBR Ammunition suppressor and putting it on a 16" barrel with a 1:14 twist. Though the 1.5-inch Barnes was the wrong size and weight for the M4 platform, it inspired Tony Rumore and Mary ter Weeme to develop the SOCOM round. UPC #: 816874023324. There's plenty of other choices in lighter super sonic weights for hunting though. No ammo is tamper proof! It was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. Reloading isnt difficult. I use the guns. Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbine's bolt velocity for a specific loads power. What really decided the case neck dimension were the heaviest bulletsat 500 or 600 grains, you need a lot of neck tension to keep a bullet in place in the case, even if youre hurling it at less than elephant-whacking velocities. Buddy Singleton from Southern Ballistic Research, LLC (SBR) in The thump is impressive. You have entered an incorrect email address! SBR has been the leader in factory .458 SOCOM production since its creation in 2001 and has continued to research and innovate in the ballistics testing and manufacturing of this high powered cartridge. Full.Lead.Taco 100% 4.34K Views 9 Likes November 9, 2018 By Full.Lead.Taco 8 Comments Links to the bullet molds: 500 gr shortened version 600 gr MOAB bullet mold without crimp groove Full.Lead.Taco I love guns, tacos, and lead. Make sure to use the correct ammunition in your gun. A coupla guys are interested - especially a good starting velocity if subsonic needs too fast a barrel twist. by Bendersquint Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:00 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Combined with the wide selection of bullets availablein .458 diameter, this cemented the choice of caliber. We NEVER have and never will take ammo exchanges or returns and then turn around and re-sale that ammo to unsuspecting customers as factory new ammothis is not safe nor is it fair to customers who are buying what they think is new and safe ammo. the cartridge. Bullets are seated out too far for revolver use. Also, in late 2020, the CIP Committee reached out to SBR about the 458 SOCOM, and in November 2021 the 458 SOCOM was CIP approved. Brass Monolithic 20rds In Stock $ 54.99 Add to Cart 458 SOCOM 300gr. After testing a variety of base, Please do not contact us and ask for tracking numbers or when will my ammo ship? Oh, and the magazines? The Lancer 20 round 5.56 magazine holds seven SOCOM rounds and the 30 round 5.56 magazine will hold nine. I use the guns. Marty contacted me, Buddy Singleton, at Southern Ballistic Research, LLC (SBR) in Brunswick, GA, and asked me to develop factory loaded ammunition for the 458 SOCOM. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. (Yes, Virginia, ammo used to be cheap enough that you could wear out a barrel just by shooting.) Acme bullets makes a .458 SOCOM-specific bullet thats 576 grains in weight and given a bright red Hi-Tek coating. Buffalo Bore. Taylor Knock-Out Factor Calculations What it takes to knock-out big game. Patrick Sweeney is the author of many of Gun Digest books' best-selling titles, including Gun Digest Book of the 1911, Vols. Up in the midrange bullets300-, 350- and 400-grainersyou can jar your fillings with velocities in the 1,500- to 1,700-fps range. Heck, its as easy as any of them, because you can count on the parts makers keeping things inside the AR-15 envelope. By entering your phone number and submitting this form, The Magpul UBR stock and its rubber recoil pad promised to keep the .458 SOCOM from being too much of a good thing, unlike the hard plastic checkered buttplate youd find on a mil-spec carbine lower. This releases the four segmented mini cores into a radial pattern around the main projectile giving a MASSIVE wound. In Stock. After a lot of research and discussion, I have come to the conclusion that there's no case easily converted to do what I want. The case length was chosen to becompatible with the Barnes 300-grain X Spitzer bullet. Great for target shooting, plinking, weapon function testing or just breaking in the 458 SOCOM beast. Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbine's bolt velocity for a specific loads power. In addition to law enforcement and military applications, 458 SOCOM ammo has become a very popular hunting cartridge for medium and large game. Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbines bolt velocity for a specific loads power. Well, Marty Ter Weeme was at a backyard barbecue a couple of decades ago with some guys who cant put on their rsums where theyve been and what theyve done. For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain- 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. http://www.bing.com/search?q=nuke50&7ADE&FORM=QBLH, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to Ammunition must ship UPS ground. by Jimmy_Jr Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:19 am, Post I was shooting my custom 458 Socom Bolt Action. The guns eat lead. 500 gr Subsonic expanding 458 socom Steve - 10/19/2019. The 300-grain roundoffers a muzzle velocity 1,900 fps. You know, the lads who now sport beards, go to dusty places and bring surprises to the miscreants they meet. Thatd be with the Polycase ARX ammunition. by Rikky Lee Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:45 am, Post Message frequency varies. Looking for more .458 SOCOM ammunition choices? The 458 SOCOM (aka: 11.5x40mm RB) is a large caliber cartridge designed for use on the AR15/M4 platform. DuraMag makes .458-specific magazines, and the rounds are single-stack in the tube (as in any AR-sized magazine) but with .458-shaped feed lips and follower. So, please do not email and ask if items are in stock. When 30-50 people per day send emails asking for tracking information and we have to pull that information up, then type it out and email it, it takes a huge portion of our work day that we should be using to ship those orders to customers in need. More results: Previous Page 1 2 3 Next Page View All. I used this bullet to harvest a deer this fall. The 458 SOCOM cartridge offers the practical ballistics of the legendary .45-70 in a modern AR platform rifle and is capable of firing 250 to 600 grain .458 caliber bullets in a lightweight, controllable package. The nose is an open tip design. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The Reloaders Networkfocuses on firearms, shooting sports, reloading, bullet casting, and the related gear and accessories. It was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. 458 SOCOM Subsonic Loads (Slow Heavy Hard Hitters!) The chamber pressure limits are calculated based upon the bolt thrust force vs the diameter of 500 gr shortened version 600 gr MOAB bullet mold without crimp groove, I love guns, tacos, and lead. Red Dot and Green Dot because at max chamber pressure, they yield velocities below your desired 1050 fps. Holosun Releases EPS And EPS Carry Pistol Reflex Optics, Sitting Bulls Rifle Up For Sale In Upcoming Auction, Best AR-15 Accessories And Upgrades (2023). The cartridges considered were7.6239mm M43, 939mm Grom, .45 Professional (which has since become the .450Bushmaster), and .50 Action Express. First designs used the 8 x 68 S case, as it shares the rim diameter of the .50AE and is non-rebated. SBR uses an ogive profile on this FMJ for flawless feeding and function, making this round ideal for training, zeroing optics, or breaking in your new 458 SOCOM weapon. they are .4585 currently. Explore our articles, guides, and join our community to get started on your reloading journey today. It fired suppressed out of bolt-action rifles and, with a 500-grain bullet, was subsonic. Based on the favorable reviews, commercial production was started and the initial rifles were produced by Tromix. Due to Department of Transportation regulations, we cannot accept returns on Ammunition. In particular, the reports from members of Task Force Ranger in 20ga shell for comparison. The 458 SOCOM cartridge offers the practical ballistics of the legendary .45-70 in a modern AR platform rifle and is capable of firing 250 to 600 grain .458 caliber bullets in a lightweight, controllable package. Building the .458 SOCOM takes only two caliber specific parts-a .458 specific bolt and barrel- Wilson Combat is further optimizing their .458 SOCOM rifles by adding an adjustable gas block, extra power action spring and straight gas tube as a standard reliability upgrade. Our extensive testing has found the Lancer L5 AWM magazine to be optimal for this round. Ruger Revolvers and 45 Colt +P Ammunition, HEAVY 10MM OUTDOORSMAN Handgun Ammunition, Heavy .38 Special +P Pistol and Handgun Ammo. The .458 can be had or loaded with bullets ranging from 140 grains up to 600 grains. An accurate bullet with the 458 SOCOM ogive profile makes for flawless functioning. For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. Ammunition must ship UPS ground. the unsubscribe link (where available) in one of our messages. It was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. In addition to law enforcement and military applications, 458 SOCOM ammo has become a very popular hunting cartridge for medium and large game. It is a place to teach, to learn, and to collaborate and interact. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. No. Items 47C and 47D will cleanly take big game animals weighing over 2,000 lbs. 600 gr. Maker Solid Copper Hollow Point (SCHP) In Stock $ 45.99 Add to Cart 458 SOCOM 325gr. 600 gr MOAB bullet mold without crimp groove, 4AW Adjustable Bag Base Improve your groups (precision shooting) Rear Support Bag, Rossi Rio Grande, Marlin 336 & Andys Zinc, The 4 BORE Rifle (The Biggest Rifle EVER !!! I currently live in south Texas (near sea level and temperate climate). There are several options available for receiving notifications of new posts to include via email, push notifications, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Discord, and more. Pistol Loads | Rifle Loads | How to Reload | Reloading Gear | Contact, Pistol Loads | Rifle Loads | How to ReloadReloading Gear | Contact, Pistol LoadsRifle LoadsHow to ReloadReloading GearContact, Copyright 2023 Reload Ammo Built with by Edward KadoPrivacy Policy | Cookie Policy | Terms of Service | Amazon Affiliate Disclosure, Copyright 2023Reload AmmoBuilt with by Edward KadoPrivacy PolicyCookie PolicyTerms of ServiceAmazon Affiliate Disclosure. If you move up to 500 grains, you can go for all the gusto, and generate some 1,300 fps out of a full-length barrel for a power factor of 650. Today, Sub MOA to 75 yards and then something strange is going on. lbf). But, I did discover that something that fits the bill perfectly already exists, it's just not a .50, it's the 458 Socom. you consent to receive marketing text messages The .458 SOCOM feeds flawlessly from many standard unmodified 5.56 AR magazines. cartridge in recent conflict. More on that in a bit. And the cleverness of the design means its a relatively easy build. We have more available here! However, that case was too short, and the rim too big. by Wicked Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:37 am, Post In our opinion the .458 SOCOM has several design and performance advantages over the.450 Bushmaster and the .500 Beowulf including improved functional reliability and the use of a standard AR magazine. You are going to get what you ordered. The big heavy, long bullets need more twist to be stable at that low of a speed. Based on the favorable force led to the request to develop a new cartridge that would deliver far more energy from short The industry standard 1-14 twist barrels seem to be the best choice for over 350 grain bullets and/or subsonic loads and will shoot all suitable bullet weights acceptably well. You can download a copy of the cartridge print directly from the CIP website, or click here to download a pdf copy. The noise, not so much. In 2009, Barnesdeveloped a new bullet specifically for use in the .458 SOCOM, the 300 grainTipped Triple Shock X, also known as the TTSX or TAC-X. The .458 is like any other bottlenecked rifle cartridge, so youll have to lube cases for resizing. Required fields are marked *. by Wicked Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:07 pm, Post Underwood Ammunition 458 SOCOM 500 Grain Hard Cast Lead Flat Nose Gas Check Subsonic Box of 20. And I eat tacos. Then, plug the Brownells .458 SOCOM barrel into the upper, tighten the barrel nut (tight-loose-tight-loose-tight to alignment), install a gas tube into a gas block and then install that and tighten it into place. pressures of 35,000 psi. Were talking about a 575 to 600 PF momentum. The 300-grain (19 g) round offers a supersonic muzzle velocity of 1,900 ft/s (580 m/s) and 2,405 ftlbf (3,261 J), [1] similar to a light .45-70 but with a much smaller case. by Wicked Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:11 am, Post Item 47CandItem 47D will cleanly take big game animals weighing over 2,000 lbs. Shipping. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. 458 SOCOM SUBSONIC HUNTING & SNIPING AMMO500 gr. Literally 1/2 MOA at 50 same at 75. then 100.I am stumped. 16 In 1:8 Twist Barrel With a 570 Grain @lehighdefense Controlled Fracturing Subsonic Bullet @ 870 FPS. Good update (thanks Wicked) - the barrel twist issue is the killer. by Wicked Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:05 pm, Post So, they chose the .458-inch bullet diameter. by Wicked Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:36 am, Post It was shown as effective in terms of ballistics, firing a 500 grainbullet subsonically, but not ideally suited for its role due to the size andweight of the platform. For the heaviest-recoiling loads, youll also want to trim cases and apply a firm crimp along with good neck tension. $44.30. special operations community regarding the apparent lack of effectiveness of the 5.56 x 45 However, case capacity can become an issue with bulky rifle powders.If I can find some loads with 2400, that might be a good experiment. The .458-inch bullets can provide better exterior ballistics, better Sectional Density and deeper penetration, especially on big and tough game animals. + game animals. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. Impact velocity = 975 fps, resulted 14 inches into a BULLET TEST TUBE. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Due to this it doesn't have as wide a variety of projectiles to choose from. Discussion: * Most magnum pistol powders can be used as well as some riflepowders. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. [SIZE=4][B]Selling Hi Quality Powdercoating Powder. Check local laws before ordering. Yeah this is going to limit the rounds I will be able to successfully use, but I prefer for it to be quiet. Anyone ever experience this sort of thing? History Inspired by a supposed lack of power offered by the 5.56 NATOcartridge used in the M4 and the M16, the .458 SOCOM came about from informaldiscussion of members of the special operations community, specifically TaskForce Rangers experience that multiple shots were required to neutralizemembers of the opposing force in Mogadishu during Operation Gothic Serpent.Marty ter Weeme designed the cartridge in 2000 and Tony Rumore of Tromix, Incwas contracted to build the first .458 SOCOM rifle in February 2001. Learn how your comment data is processed. The initial prototypes used the .50 AE cases which has a large pistol primer pocket. The .458 SOCOM achieves optimum ballistic performance in barrel lengths shorter than 16 so there is no need for longer, less portable barrels. HARD CAST GC FN (1115 fps)20 Round Box. There is still alot of experimenting with loads and blogs as of 2012 are the best source. The SOCOM is also capable of launching 500- 600 grain bullets at subsonic velocities for suppressed or tactical use. Thanks, Sudboy Posted: 12/21/2019 11:36:14 AM EDT [#1] Quoted: Your email address will not be published. NO, large rifle primers are taller than large pistol primer. bullets at subsonic velocities, and the Barnes .458 x 1.5" briefly saw service in Vietnam in the Special Operations community. You can burn up a lot of ammo determining if the mags you have and are already using will play well with your .458 ammo and rifle. Game animals. Item 47F----1075 fpsItem 47G----1115 fps, Item47G - Exterior Ballistics Charts for several Muzzle Velocities. None of the .50 variants I found had any shoulder to headspace on. The 1-22 twist rate is an absolute tack driver with 250gr 325gr bullets commonly used for hunting and is the optimum choice for the Barnes 300gr TAC TX/TTSX SOCOM bullet. You can unsubscribe at any time by replying STOP or clicking It had to use standard AR-15 magazines. The 458 SOCOM (aka: 11.5x40mm RB) is a large caliber cartridge designed for use on the AR15/M4 platform. little update. CIP in Europe.
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Get the 76th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. If youre interested in lower-cost fun thumping, then you can use coated bullets and load subsonic. The .458 SOCOM feeds flawlessly from many standard unmodified 5.56 AR magazines. I've shot the 100gr Lehigh bullets, and the 255gr with pretty good accuracy as well (the 255gr sub MOA at 100 yds). History [ edit] Do not contact us and ask to change an order youve already placed. OK, big deal. Cycles fine. I have seen posts and videos of subsonic 458 SOCOM with similar complaints but they always seem to be using a bullet that does not expand at subsonic velocities. SFX9 HC 3.25 Solid Frame X-TAC 15 Round, SFX9 HC 3.25 Solid Frame X-TAC 10 Round. The thump is impressive. The gas tube you use is the same gas tube youd use for any other build of the barrel length youve chosen. After the design was completed, Tony Rumore of Tromix Message and data rates may apply. Item 47G is designed to be a sub-sonic load, for suppressed use, but you do not have to use a suppressor if you do not want to. Got suppressor going and subs decent. These cartridges are equipped with an ultra heavy-weight 550-grainfull metal jacketed bullet, which is the heaviest 458 SOCOM bullet that SBR produces. The .458 SOCOM comes back with a certain amount of authority, and you dont want to be crowding the scope when you touch off one of the robust ones. there is a throat limit in the 458 SOCOM chamber where it will not accommodate some types of - Winston Churchill. The .458 SOCOM was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. Please check local laws before ordering. Where the .458 SOCOM gets to be giddy fun is when you go with heavyweight subsonics. I LOVE the 458 Socom round, it is the most fun round I own to shoot. by Bendersquint Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:15 am, Post Ever wonder just how big a bullet we can hurl out of the standard AR-15 package? (such as promotion codes and cart reminders) from AMD at the number provided, Corp in Broken Arrow, OK was contacted to build the first prototype. We dual diametered the shank which allows the bullet seatingcloser tomagazine length. Satisfactory powders for 458 Socom subsonic: Bullseye, Unique, 2400 Unsatisfactory powders: 1. So, for the .458 SOCOM, Marty and Tony Rumore of Tromix chose lengthened .50 AE cases and had the brass maker trim the rims down from the .50 AE diameter of .514 to .473 inch. The videos on this channel focus on the first two itemsusing guns and making the ammo that gets used in them. I put a GM fast twist 458 barrel in my H&R so I could shoot the heavies subsonic. Bullet on right measures .750 diameter and penetrated 29 inches of 10 percent gel. If you like my videos and want to support my channel, please visit: https://www.patreon.com/fullleadtaco *or* paypal.me/fullleadtaco Current coupon codes for my viewers: flt001to use for 10% off atnoebulletmoulds.com showmethecandyto use for 15% off atconcealmentsolutions.com tacoto use for 10% off atbuckeyetargets.com getinthevanihavecandyto use for a significant discountmagholder.com aircandy to get free shipping and turret stickers at UtahAirGuns.com. HOW WILL THIS (name any) AMMO FEED AND FUNCTION IN MY GUN? A 600-grain JSP (which has no hope whatsoever of expanding, just to be clear) in the subsonic velocity region becomes an entertaining range time. Yowza! My 15" barrel Thompson-Center Encore pistol in 500 S&W Magnum launches a 385 gr Remington core-locked hollow point bullet at 960-1000 fps using a completely full case worth of Trail Boss powder. The 1/14 twist is supposed to stabilise the heavy weight (500 grain) bullets for short range shooting but the VLDs offer some interesting, if expensive, experiences and have to be tried! At current order rates, we are shipping within 5-7 business days of the time an internet order is placed. by Wicked Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:09 pm, Post by Artful Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:23 pm, Post For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. Then, clean the lube off for loading. Will be shipped via: FEDERAL EXPRESS - GROUND ACTUAL SHIPPING CHARGES, Beretta / Glock / SIG / M&P / Revolver / XD / H&K, .458 SOCOM | 250GR, HORNADY MFX, 1850 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 300GR, NOSLER BT, 1725 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 300GR, HORNADY HP, 1700 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 300GR, X-TREME RNFP, 1700 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX, .458 SOCOM | 350GR, HORNADY SP, 1675 FPS - 16" BARREL, 20/BOX. I have been looking for a new 'project' and was thinking that I wanted to do a suppressed .50 subsonic bolt rifle. I didn't really find any other bullets I liked for long range sub-sonic use. About the .458 SOCOM The Lancer 20 round 5.56 magazine holds seven SOCOM rounds and the 30 round 5.56 magazine will hold nine. We have LOTS of ammo in stock and are making more at a huge volume on a daily basis. The SOCOM is also capable of launching 500- 600 grain bullets at subsonic velocities for suppressed or tactical use. Now, that last part is a bit more, shall we say, variable, than the others. PacNor will do a .458 barrel in a 6 groove 1:8 or an 8 groove 1:10. The cartridge itself is a powerhouse and was developed specifically to take down large, dangerous game, while still being usable from the M4/AR15 platform (a unique upper receiver would be needed). Oh, hey, theres a complete rifle on the end of the rack with a shot-out bore. A 600-grain JSP (which has no hope whatsoever of expanding, just to be clear) in the subsonic velocity region becomes an entertaining range time. by Rikky Lee Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:23 pm, Post . You can download a copy of the cartridge print directly from the CIP website, or, 458 SOCOM 300 GR BARNES TTSX (TAC-X) 20 RDS, 458 SOCOM 300 GR LEHIGH EXTREME PENETRATOR (FOR DANGEROUS GAME) 20 RDS, 458 SOCOM 300 GR SOLID COPPER FOR DANGEROUS GAME 20 RDS. Subsonic Maker Solid Copper Hollow Point (SCHP) $ 74.99 Add to Cart 458 SOCOM 250gr. That With this load, unlike our other sub-sonic load, I had to adjust my gas port to get the action to reliably cycle. Since the users wanted bullet choices that left out the usual suspects back in the pre-9/11 days, those rejected being potential cartridges that used pistol bullets. for ~1,700-1,800 fps category), (note: Matts Bullets makes a 365 Grain Lead, Round Flat Nose + Gas Check(.458) that should be experimented with if the flat nose does not create afeed problem). He is a published fiction and non-fiction writer, earned his pilots license in 1965, and is the original founder of Reload Ammo in 1996. I'm actually in the process of building myself a suppressed .458 Socom, but in an AR platform. It used to be that .458 SOCOM ammo cost $2.50-$3.50 per shot. Yes, the idea was to make the .458 SOCOM feed out of standard AR magazines. I'm looking at the SBR Ammunition suppressor and putting it on a 16" barrel with a 1:14 twist. Though the 1.5-inch Barnes was the wrong size and weight for the M4 platform, it inspired Tony Rumore and Mary ter Weeme to develop the SOCOM round. UPC #: 816874023324. There's plenty of other choices in lighter super sonic weights for hunting though. No ammo is tamper proof! It was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. Reloading isnt difficult. I use the guns. Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbine's bolt velocity for a specific loads power. What really decided the case neck dimension were the heaviest bulletsat 500 or 600 grains, you need a lot of neck tension to keep a bullet in place in the case, even if youre hurling it at less than elephant-whacking velocities. Buddy Singleton from Southern Ballistic Research, LLC (SBR) in The thump is impressive. You have entered an incorrect email address! SBR has been the leader in factory .458 SOCOM production since its creation in 2001 and has continued to research and innovate in the ballistics testing and manufacturing of this high powered cartridge. Full.Lead.Taco 100% 4.34K Views 9 Likes November 9, 2018 By Full.Lead.Taco 8 Comments Links to the bullet molds: 500 gr shortened version 600 gr MOAB bullet mold without crimp groove Full.Lead.Taco I love guns, tacos, and lead. Make sure to use the correct ammunition in your gun. A coupla guys are interested - especially a good starting velocity if subsonic needs too fast a barrel twist. by Bendersquint Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:00 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Combined with the wide selection of bullets availablein .458 diameter, this cemented the choice of caliber. We NEVER have and never will take ammo exchanges or returns and then turn around and re-sale that ammo to unsuspecting customers as factory new ammothis is not safe nor is it fair to customers who are buying what they think is new and safe ammo. the cartridge. Bullets are seated out too far for revolver use. Also, in late 2020, the CIP Committee reached out to SBR about the 458 SOCOM, and in November 2021 the 458 SOCOM was CIP approved. Brass Monolithic 20rds In Stock $ 54.99 Add to Cart 458 SOCOM 300gr. After testing a variety of base, Please do not contact us and ask for tracking numbers or when will my ammo ship? Oh, and the magazines? The Lancer 20 round 5.56 magazine holds seven SOCOM rounds and the 30 round 5.56 magazine will hold nine. I use the guns. Marty contacted me, Buddy Singleton, at Southern Ballistic Research, LLC (SBR) in Brunswick, GA, and asked me to develop factory loaded ammunition for the 458 SOCOM. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. (Yes, Virginia, ammo used to be cheap enough that you could wear out a barrel just by shooting.) Acme bullets makes a .458 SOCOM-specific bullet thats 576 grains in weight and given a bright red Hi-Tek coating. Buffalo Bore. Taylor Knock-Out Factor Calculations What it takes to knock-out big game. Patrick Sweeney is the author of many of Gun Digest books' best-selling titles, including Gun Digest Book of the 1911, Vols. Up in the midrange bullets300-, 350- and 400-grainersyou can jar your fillings with velocities in the 1,500- to 1,700-fps range. Heck, its as easy as any of them, because you can count on the parts makers keeping things inside the AR-15 envelope. By entering your phone number and submitting this form, The Magpul UBR stock and its rubber recoil pad promised to keep the .458 SOCOM from being too much of a good thing, unlike the hard plastic checkered buttplate youd find on a mil-spec carbine lower. This releases the four segmented mini cores into a radial pattern around the main projectile giving a MASSIVE wound. In Stock. After a lot of research and discussion, I have come to the conclusion that there's no case easily converted to do what I want. The case length was chosen to becompatible with the Barnes 300-grain X Spitzer bullet. Great for target shooting, plinking, weapon function testing or just breaking in the 458 SOCOM beast. Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbine's bolt velocity for a specific loads power. In addition to law enforcement and military applications, 458 SOCOM ammo has become a very popular hunting cartridge for medium and large game. Having the ability to easily adjust your gas volume allows the end user to fine tune their carbines bolt velocity for a specific loads power. Well, Marty Ter Weeme was at a backyard barbecue a couple of decades ago with some guys who cant put on their rsums where theyve been and what theyve done. For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain- 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. http://www.bing.com/search?q=nuke50&7ADE&FORM=QBLH, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to
Ammunition must ship UPS ground. by Jimmy_Jr Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:19 am, Post I was shooting my custom 458 Socom Bolt Action. The guns eat lead. 500 gr Subsonic expanding 458 socom Steve - 10/19/2019. The 300-grain roundoffers a muzzle velocity 1,900 fps. You know, the lads who now sport beards, go to dusty places and bring surprises to the miscreants they meet. Thatd be with the Polycase ARX ammunition. by Rikky Lee Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:45 am, Post Message frequency varies. Looking for more .458 SOCOM ammunition choices? The 458 SOCOM (aka: 11.5x40mm RB) is a large caliber cartridge designed for use on the AR15/M4 platform. DuraMag makes .458-specific magazines, and the rounds are single-stack in the tube (as in any AR-sized magazine) but with .458-shaped feed lips and follower. So, please do not email and ask if items are in stock. When 30-50 people per day send emails asking for tracking information and we have to pull that information up, then type it out and email it, it takes a huge portion of our work day that we should be using to ship those orders to customers in need. More results: Previous Page 1 2 3 Next Page View All. I used this bullet to harvest a deer this fall. The 458 SOCOM cartridge offers the practical ballistics of the legendary .45-70 in a modern AR platform rifle and is capable of firing 250 to 600 grain .458 caliber bullets in a lightweight, controllable package. The nose is an open tip design. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The Reloaders Networkfocuses on firearms, shooting sports, reloading, bullet casting, and the related gear and accessories. It was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. 458 SOCOM Subsonic Loads (Slow Heavy Hard Hitters!) The chamber pressure limits are calculated based upon the bolt thrust force vs the diameter of 500 gr shortened version 600 gr MOAB bullet mold without crimp groove, I love guns, tacos, and lead. Red Dot and Green Dot because at max chamber pressure, they yield velocities below your desired 1050 fps. Holosun Releases EPS And EPS Carry Pistol Reflex Optics, Sitting Bulls Rifle Up For Sale In Upcoming Auction, Best AR-15 Accessories And Upgrades (2023). The cartridges considered were7.6239mm M43, 939mm Grom, .45 Professional (which has since become the .450Bushmaster), and .50 Action Express. First designs used the 8 x 68 S case, as it shares the rim diameter of the .50AE and is non-rebated. SBR uses an ogive profile on this FMJ for flawless feeding and function, making this round ideal for training, zeroing optics, or breaking in your new 458 SOCOM weapon. they are .4585 currently. Explore our articles, guides, and join our community to get started on your reloading journey today. It fired suppressed out of bolt-action rifles and, with a 500-grain bullet, was subsonic. Based on the favorable reviews, commercial production was started and the initial rifles were produced by Tromix. Due to Department of Transportation regulations, we cannot accept returns on Ammunition. In particular, the reports from members of Task Force Ranger in 20ga shell for comparison. The 458 SOCOM cartridge offers the practical ballistics of the legendary .45-70 in a modern AR platform rifle and is capable of firing 250 to 600 grain .458 caliber bullets in a lightweight, controllable package. Building the .458 SOCOM takes only two caliber specific parts-a .458 specific bolt and barrel- Wilson Combat is further optimizing their .458 SOCOM rifles by adding an adjustable gas block, extra power action spring and straight gas tube as a standard reliability upgrade. Our extensive testing has found the Lancer L5 AWM magazine to be optimal for this round. Ruger Revolvers and 45 Colt +P Ammunition, HEAVY 10MM OUTDOORSMAN Handgun Ammunition, Heavy .38 Special +P Pistol and Handgun Ammo. The .458 can be had or loaded with bullets ranging from 140 grains up to 600 grains. An accurate bullet with the 458 SOCOM ogive profile makes for flawless functioning. For hunting medium to large game, bullets in the 250 grain 400 grain weight range possess devastating killing power. Ammunition must ship UPS ground. the unsubscribe link (where available) in one of our messages. It was developed by Marty ter Weeme, founder of Teppo Jutsu LLC in 2000. In addition to law enforcement and military applications, 458 SOCOM ammo has become a very popular hunting cartridge for medium and large game. It is a place to teach, to learn, and to collaborate and interact. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. No. Items 47C and 47D will cleanly take big game animals weighing over 2,000 lbs. 600 gr. Maker Solid Copper Hollow Point (SCHP) In Stock $ 45.99 Add to Cart 458 SOCOM 325gr. 600 gr MOAB bullet mold without crimp groove, 4AW Adjustable Bag Base Improve your groups (precision shooting) Rear Support Bag, Rossi Rio Grande, Marlin 336 & Andys Zinc, The 4 BORE Rifle (The Biggest Rifle EVER !!! I currently live in south Texas (near sea level and temperate climate). There are several options available for receiving notifications of new posts to include via email, push notifications, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Discord, and more. Pistol Loads | Rifle Loads | How to Reload | Reloading Gear | Contact, Pistol Loads | Rifle Loads | How to ReloadReloading Gear | Contact, Pistol LoadsRifle LoadsHow to ReloadReloading GearContact, Copyright 2023 Reload Ammo Built with by Edward KadoPrivacy Policy | Cookie Policy | Terms of Service | Amazon Affiliate Disclosure, Copyright 2023Reload AmmoBuilt with by Edward KadoPrivacy PolicyCookie PolicyTerms of ServiceAmazon Affiliate Disclosure. If you move up to 500 grains, you can go for all the gusto, and generate some 1,300 fps out of a full-length barrel for a power factor of 650. Today, Sub MOA to 75 yards and then something strange is going on. lbf). But, I did discover that something that fits the bill perfectly already exists, it's just not a .50, it's the 458 Socom. you consent to receive marketing text messages The .458 SOCOM feeds flawlessly from many standard unmodified 5.56 AR magazines. cartridge in recent conflict. More on that in a bit. And the cleverness of the design means its a relatively easy build. We have more available here! However, that case was too short, and the rim too big. by Wicked Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:37 am, Post In our opinion the .458 SOCOM has several design and performance advantages over the.450 Bushmaster and the .500 Beowulf including improved functional reliability and the use of a standard AR magazine. You are going to get what you ordered. The big heavy, long bullets need more twist to be stable at that low of a speed. Based on the favorable force led to the request to develop a new cartridge that would deliver far more energy from short The industry standard 1-14 twist barrels seem to be the best choice for over 350 grain bullets and/or subsonic loads and will shoot all suitable bullet weights acceptably well. You can download a copy of the cartridge print directly from the CIP website, or click here to download a pdf copy. The noise, not so much. In 2009, Barnesdeveloped a new bullet specifically for use in the .458 SOCOM, the 300 grainTipped Triple Shock X, also known as the TTSX or TAC-X. The .458 is like any other bottlenecked rifle cartridge, so youll have to lube cases for resizing. Required fields are marked *. by Wicked Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:07 pm, Post Underwood Ammunition 458 SOCOM 500 Grain Hard Cast Lead Flat Nose Gas Check Subsonic Box of 20. And I eat tacos. Then, plug the Brownells .458 SOCOM barrel into the upper, tighten the barrel nut (tight-loose-tight-loose-tight to alignment), install a gas tube into a gas block and then install that and tighten it into place. pressures of 35,000 psi. Were talking about a 575 to 600 PF momentum. The 300-grain (19 g) round offers a supersonic muzzle velocity of 1,900 ft/s (580 m/s) and 2,405 ftlbf (3,261 J), [1] similar to a light .45-70 but with a much smaller case. by Wicked Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:11 am, Post Item 47CandItem 47D will cleanly take big game animals weighing over 2,000 lbs. Shipping. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. 458 SOCOM SUBSONIC HUNTING & SNIPING AMMO500 gr. Literally 1/2 MOA at 50 same at 75. then 100.I am stumped. 16 In 1:8 Twist Barrel With a 570 Grain @lehighdefense Controlled Fracturing Subsonic Bullet @ 870 FPS. Good update (thanks Wicked) - the barrel twist issue is the killer. by Wicked Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:05 pm, Post So, they chose the .458-inch bullet diameter. by Wicked Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:36 am, Post It was shown as effective in terms of ballistics, firing a 500 grainbullet subsonically, but not ideally suited for its role due to the size andweight of the platform. For the heaviest-recoiling loads, youll also want to trim cases and apply a firm crimp along with good neck tension. $44.30. special operations community regarding the apparent lack of effectiveness of the 5.56 x 45 However, case capacity can become an issue with bulky rifle powders.If I can find some loads with 2400, that might be a good experiment. The .458-inch bullets can provide better exterior ballistics, better Sectional Density and deeper penetration, especially on big and tough game animals. + game animals. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. Impact velocity = 975 fps, resulted 14 inches into a BULLET TEST TUBE. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Due to this it doesn't have as wide a variety of projectiles to choose from. Discussion: * Most magnum pistol powders can be used as well as some riflepowders. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. [SIZE=4][B]Selling Hi Quality Powdercoating Powder. Check local laws before ordering. Yeah this is going to limit the rounds I will be able to successfully use, but I prefer for it to be quiet. Anyone ever experience this sort of thing? History Inspired by a supposed lack of power offered by the 5.56 NATOcartridge used in the M4 and the M16, the .458 SOCOM came about from informaldiscussion of members of the special operations community, specifically TaskForce Rangers experience that multiple shots were required to neutralizemembers of the opposing force in Mogadishu during Operation Gothic Serpent.Marty ter Weeme designed the cartridge in 2000 and Tony Rumore of Tromix, Incwas contracted to build the first .458 SOCOM rifle in February 2001. Learn how your comment data is processed. The initial prototypes used the .50 AE cases which has a large pistol primer pocket. The .458 SOCOM achieves optimum ballistic performance in barrel lengths shorter than 16 so there is no need for longer, less portable barrels. HARD CAST GC FN (1115 fps)20 Round Box. There is still alot of experimenting with loads and blogs as of 2012 are the best source. The SOCOM is also capable of launching 500- 600 grain bullets at subsonic velocities for suppressed or tactical use. Thanks, Sudboy Posted: 12/21/2019 11:36:14 AM EDT [#1] Quoted: Your email address will not be published. NO, large rifle primers are taller than large pistol primer. bullets at subsonic velocities, and the Barnes .458 x 1.5" briefly saw service in Vietnam in the Special Operations community. You can burn up a lot of ammo determining if the mags you have and are already using will play well with your .458 ammo and rifle. Game animals. Item 47F----1075 fpsItem 47G----1115 fps, Item47G - Exterior Ballistics Charts for several Muzzle Velocities. None of the .50 variants I found had any shoulder to headspace on. The 1-22 twist rate is an absolute tack driver with 250gr 325gr bullets commonly used for hunting and is the optimum choice for the Barnes 300gr TAC TX/TTSX SOCOM bullet. You can unsubscribe at any time by replying STOP or clicking It had to use standard AR-15 magazines. The 458 SOCOM (aka: 11.5x40mm RB) is a large caliber cartridge designed for use on the AR15/M4 platform. little update. CIP in Europe. Pilot Retirement Age In Europe,
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